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Dear Editor,

Re:-Anger over Shepway primary school slaughtering sheep

Seriously, please everyone come back down to Earth here with the rest of us meat eaters.

Firstly, I would like to correct a typical emotive newspaper 'error' - the sheep wasn't named! If he was, it definitely wasn't by the kids...and again,  if he was it was something like Market, just to make it clear!

I don't find animal slaughter for meat cruel, or sick. And neither do you - you're all just whipped up in the media frenzy.

What I do find sick, is the fact that the headmistress is now being targeted - seriously targeted - and all because she made a simple decision to get rid of one of the sheep and at the same time teach the kids something about the food chain....it's not like she was going to take them to see a slaughter, which, by the way was shown on a recent TV series....didn't see any complaints about that.

Are you all suggesting we stop killing animals for meat full stop? Because all those kids knew that sheep wasn't a pet...What about school trips to the farm?  You pet and feed sheep and cows there... and they're all for the chop! It's the same thing!

She is teaching about the food chain... she's teaching them that in life, certain things have to be.

No kid needs to know exactly the process of a slaughtering... that wasn't her aim. That would be scary! It was a lesson in real life. This is where meat comes from.

Grow up! Spend your time doing things that matter!

And leave that poor woman alone for God's sake!

 She's the best thing that's happened to that school in a long time. Stop making a fuss where there's none to be had.

Name withheld


© Hawkinge Gazette and Channel Coast News 2009
 

 

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Chris Beal Subject: Name Withheld Says it all hiding your identity! posted: Sep 15, 2009
 

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Name withheld could for all we know be the very same Head teacher whose pet farm has sparked the controversy. I note you do not find slaughter cruel! Perhaps you have never seen what actually happens in a slaughterhouse but if you have then I would not like to see your description of cruel it certainly would not be permitted on this site! In an ideal world there would be no need for suffering of any kind however until that time certain standards of behaviour are demanded by society one is the cause and effect phenomena. If you do something that many people think is innapropriate then you must be pepared to take the consequences which have I understand has escalated to many calls for the Heads removal. I would suggest that some of your statements are based on prejudice towards non meat eaters by the tone of some of your comments which misses the point. A school farm is not an agricultural environment as I understand there are few animals there and as such it is obviuos children are going to bond with those animals in a way that places the interpersonal relationship in a different context to the real farm animals who are generally held in impersonal herds and logged by ear tag for milk yield and that sort of statistical data and data for farm source disease tracking and the like. Not the sort of thing seen at a petting farm which is often sanitized for public consumption even having named cows, sheep, goats and the like available specifically for people to touch. This is as I'm sure you are aware not the real world of food production where animals are treated much the same as any commodity in a business maximum out from minimum in. Many workers are treated the same way especially in the agricultural industry long hours, harsh working conditions and poor pay being part of the countryside. Therefore the children who attend a school in such an area will be well aware of farm reality possibly being victims of the downside of farming in general Thus a toy farm and teachers pet project which is what this appears to be would seem to be an uneccessary luxury in this climate of severe economic constraint. However I've yet to come across a member of the teaching profession with a real grasp of financial management skills and budgetry control abilities, those sort of issues often left to some underpaid admin assistant to cope with. Your claim that the slaughter process is too scary I would certainly agree with. However we are told a group of 14 children voted for slaughter. How was their decision then informed if they had not been told what slaughter was? It is like like going to vote in a Parliamentary election without knowing the name or political affiliation of the candidates and I rather suspect an independant adjudicator would have called foul in this case as the Head is reported as wanting this sheep killed and therefore had a vested interest in the outcome of the vote. Clearly there was room for this bias to influence the vote as children are very susceptable to the wishes of their Head teacher and would wish to please her anyway! There also appear to be conflicting stories on the points of fact and as I have said if you don't have the courage to put your real identity up then your comments are hardly comparable in validity to those that have which ever camp they are supporting!My comments are based on the reports read in the national and local press and variuos internet sites all of which state that the sheep was named Marcus, that it was treated as a pet and some of the children were upset by the slaughter decision which some contributors have likened to a small pet animal being killed. I don't personally find any distinction in the animals size but the fact that it has been reported as being a pet and reared in a non real farm environment by children who are not sufficiently worldy wise to realise the complete significance of being asked to vote on something like the slaughter of a reported pet sheep you yourself have said slaughter is not something they should be exposed to. I say again if that is the case why ask them to vote on something that they are disqualified from knowing the full implications of. The involvemnet in this apparently manipulative and underhanded way is not a good example for someone in authority to set children. The values taken from school particulary primary school are taken through life and if those values are in any way skewed by any omissions or manipulative behavours of teachers then those children could suffer irrepairable harm and either experience trauma as result of the sheep incident or suffer the effects later which might manifest as animal or human abuse because of the installation of a value system that appears to say it is OK to dispose of your pet because you either can or someone implied a permission to treat animals and hence humans in an abusive manner the two behaviours linkage being well documented. So the point is an education exercise carried out in an a way that may potentially harm the very people education should be nurturing and caring for. To put it crudely this stunt has backfired on the perpetrator and it is likely to haunt her for quite a while especially in this litigious society we live in where suing ones school because of problems that manifest later in life is a distinct possibility!

 
 
Jan Martinez Subject: Marcus the sheep -ponder the following posted: Sep 17, 2009
 

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Reader, ponder the following comments regarding the sanctity of animal life -

John Galsworthy (1867-1933) stated:

"You are not living in a private world all your own. Everything you say and do has its effect on everybody around you. For example, if you feel and say loudly enough that it is an infernal shame to keeps larks and other wild song-birds in cages, you will infalliably infect a number of other people with that sentiment, and in course of time those people who feel as you do will become so numerous that birds will no longer be caught and kept in cages.

Only by people going about and shouting out that these things made them uncomfortable.

When a thing exists which you really abhor, I wish you would remember a little whether in letting it strictly alone, you are minding your own business on principle, or simply because it is comfortable to do so."

Leonardo da Vinci (1452-1519) stated:

"I have from an early age abjured the use of meat and the time will come when men such as I will look upon the murder of animals as they now look upon the murder of men"

It is needful to remind ourselves that a great many people we place on pedestals have a true reverence for the sanctity of ALL forms of life on the planet we share with them - SHEEP included.

 
 

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